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		<title>By: floyd smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 19:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days, Art theft from ones website is just plain stealing in my book - and if anyone thinks differently. 
This is what would maybe happen to them in some countries. #1 - Tie this person to the top of a fire-ant hill for about a day. After this do you really think they would do it again? I don&#039;t think so. #2. - Cane this person some fifty times. I think this would do the trick. Does all this seem too extreme to root out a problem thats gotten out of hand? Any artist out there that has worked for so many years to be one of the best, as an artist or writer - that has had their works copyed at one time or another, should not ever accept it as, oh well, its just a fact of life - have to live with it. There is a line that has become the norm by so many in this Country. &quot;As long as it happens to someone else, but not me personally. Not physically anyway. &quot;Then its somewhat ok.&quot;  Some where in all this, as artist we all have to come together as one, at least try and do something about it. Will this ever happen? Not in a million years.  So many of us are just to nice. Many in the artist world think that the way to ones heart, is to be pleasing with words. I&#039;m not going to cut corners, but make my thoughts known by these comments that may or may not get through a dummy or two that stealing artist images is just not socially acceptable. There may be others that think its a form of terrorism: (To control or dominate through online intimidation)could be another way of looking at it. Maybe someday. In a new life, a new world, all this will change. Lets hope so. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days, Art theft from ones website is just plain stealing in my book &#8211; and if anyone thinks differently.</p>
<p>This is what would maybe happen to them in some countries. #1 &#8211; Tie this person to the top of a fire-ant hill for about a day. After this do you really think they would do it again? I don&#039;t think so. #2. &#8211; Cane this person some fifty times. I think this would do the trick. Does all this seem too extreme to root out a problem thats gotten out of hand? Any artist out there that has worked for so many years to be one of the best, as an artist or writer &#8211; that has had their works copyed at one time or another, should not ever accept it as, oh well, its just a fact of life &#8211; have to live with it. There is a line that has become the norm by so many in this Country. &quot;As long as it happens to someone else, but not me personally. Not physically anyway. &quot;Then its somewhat ok.&quot;  Some where in all this, as artist we all have to come together as one, at least try and do something about it. Will this ever happen? Not in a million years.  So many of us are just to nice. Many in the artist world think that the way to ones heart, is to be pleasing with words. I&#039;m not going to cut corners, but make my thoughts known by these comments that may or may not get through a dummy or two that stealing artist images is just not socially acceptable. There may be others that think its a form of terrorism: (To control or dominate through online intimidation)could be another way of looking at it. Maybe someday. In a new life, a new world, all this will change. Lets hope so. </p>
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		<title>By: Susan Tantlinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tantlinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 19:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe in the new digital age things will be copied well.  I&#039;ve had BAD experiences with my art being copied so badly that I was ashamed of it, yet well enough that people really thought it was mine.  It appeared on tacky t-shirts, and then thousands of paper mache trays.  Also applied to barettes and pins.  That was a mess.  So, personally, every time I&#039;ve been copied for what was a licensing sort of situation, it&#039;s been a nightmare.  Oh, and a black and white dog was ripped from a huge collector&#039;s catalog and used as a business logo for a fish shop in the UK.  Good copies= ok.  Poor copies= damaging in my opinion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe in the new digital age things will be copied well.  I&#039;ve had BAD experiences with my art being copied so badly that I was ashamed of it, yet well enough that people really thought it was mine.  It appeared on tacky t-shirts, and then thousands of paper mache trays.  Also applied to barettes and pins.  That was a mess.  So, personally, every time I&#039;ve been copied for what was a licensing sort of situation, it&#039;s been a nightmare.  Oh, and a black and white dog was ripped from a huge collector&#039;s catalog and used as a business logo for a fish shop in the UK.  Good copies= ok.  Poor copies= damaging in my opinion. </p>
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		<title>By: Julie Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!  Does it really matter?  You bet it does!  I wholeheartedly agree with those here who consider it further publicity, and I know first-hand that it can and occasionally does go viral.  This is the best possible outcome for such &#039;theft&#039;, but it does indeed happen. 
 
In March 2008 such a thing happened to me.  Someone visited my website, liked the images, and instead of simply emailing a link to friends the person instead took nearly 20 images and emailed them to a handful of friends.  No name, no url, no credit whatsoever.  That email went viral and went global in just a few weeks.  At the height of it I was receiving over 700 hits a day from people Googling to find out where they came from.  It has since been blogged in over 48 countries that I am aware of, and there has been printed press in a few countries as well.   
 
Would it have been better and more effective if the person had included my name?  Oh, most likely so.  But the &#039;mystery&#039; led quite a few to think that the images were fake.  So many people thought them fake that Hoax Slayer in Brisbane investigated me.  I still get webhits daily from Hoax Slayer by surfers investigating the Painted Feather hoax.  Here is a link to the very nice article they wrote:    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hoax-slayer.com/painted-feather-images.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hoax-slayer.com/painted-feather-images...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Art &#039;theft&#039; from my website without my permission has seriously grown my business in ways I never dreamed possible, and I am grateful to that unknown &#039;borrower&#039;. 
 
cheers, 
~Julie~ 
the Featherlady </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  Does it really matter?  You bet it does!  I wholeheartedly agree with those here who consider it further publicity, and I know first-hand that it can and occasionally does go viral.  This is the best possible outcome for such &#039;theft&#039;, but it does indeed happen.</p>
<p>In March 2008 such a thing happened to me.  Someone visited my website, liked the images, and instead of simply emailing a link to friends the person instead took nearly 20 images and emailed them to a handful of friends.  No name, no url, no credit whatsoever.  That email went viral and went global in just a few weeks.  At the height of it I was receiving over 700 hits a day from people Googling to find out where they came from.  It has since been blogged in over 48 countries that I am aware of, and there has been printed press in a few countries as well.  </p>
<p>Would it have been better and more effective if the person had included my name?  Oh, most likely so.  But the &#039;mystery&#039; led quite a few to think that the images were fake.  So many people thought them fake that Hoax Slayer in Brisbane investigated me.  I still get webhits daily from Hoax Slayer by surfers investigating the Painted Feather hoax.  Here is a link to the very nice article they wrote:<br />
  <a href="http://www.hoax-slayer.com/painted-feather-images.shtml" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.hoax-slayer.com/painted-feather-images" rel="nofollow">http://www.hoax-slayer.com/painted-feather-images</a>&#8230;  </p>
<p>Art &#039;theft&#039; from my website without my permission has seriously grown my business in ways I never dreamed possible, and I am grateful to that unknown &#039;borrower&#039;.</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>~Julie~</p>
<p>the Featherlady </p>
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		<title>By: Sherri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,  I would be delighted to see someone using my art on their website.  However, my question is to photographers.  How do you feel if an artist uses your photograph as a photo-reference for their painting?  As a painter myself, I&#039;m always on the lookout for good photo-references, but am very careful when it comes to copyright issues. 
So, photographers, what say you?? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,  I would be delighted to see someone using my art on their website.  However, my question is to photographers.  How do you feel if an artist uses your photograph as a photo-reference for their painting?  As a painter myself, I&#039;m always on the lookout for good photo-references, but am very careful when it comes to copyright issues.</p>
<p>So, photographers, what say you?? </p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, the comments that regard &quot;stealing&quot; as good free publicity forget the fact that, very often the person who feels entitled to download artwork for nothing has very little interest in the actual artist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, the comments that regard &quot;stealing&quot; as good free publicity forget the fact that, very often the person who feels entitled to download artwork for nothing has very little interest in the actual artist. </p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Zachary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Zachary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>020910

You have offered an interesting comment here and the discussion is very interesting and helpful, especially links to sites with instructions on how to protect your art from theft.

I personally would not mind other people using my images on the web as long as they courteously credit me and include a contact link to a site or blog. That offers broader exposure of my work. And blogs like yours and mine give away useful written material all the time.

I would only include someone elses art or writing if it was relevant to the topic I am blogging about. I would not use another person&#039;s writing or artwork without permission, and would of course attribute the work to them, and link them as well, if they desired. The idea that someone would market another person&#039;s art as their own on saleable products is creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>020910</p>
<p>You have offered an interesting comment here and the discussion is very interesting and helpful, especially links to sites with instructions on how to protect your art from theft.</p>
<p>I personally would not mind other people using my images on the web as long as they courteously credit me and include a contact link to a site or blog. That offers broader exposure of my work. And blogs like yours and mine give away useful written material all the time.</p>
<p>I would only include someone elses art or writing if it was relevant to the topic I am blogging about. I would not use another person&#8217;s writing or artwork without permission, and would of course attribute the work to them, and link them as well, if they desired. The idea that someone would market another person&#8217;s art as their own on saleable products is creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Nixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to take a different mindset to this subject. I prefer to take an abundance mentality and freely give them away. Why Not? I find that if I am busy trying to horde my work then I am missing opportunities to broaden my circle of influence. What if we as artist give our digital format work away? There is no production cost to us for this format! 
 
Seth Godin gives away his books in pdf format then he goes about selling millions of copies of the physical book! Why is that? People want to have something physical that they can hold in their hand or, in my case, hang on their wall. If they like it then they will buy! 
 
If they are the type that will print out a copy of a file from my site to hang on their wall or put in something they are selling...they would not have bought my work anyway. So why fight it? I figure the more people that see my work, the better the chance of one wanting to actually purchase it!  Just my weird way of looking at this! 
 
What are your thoughts? 
 
Brandon </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to take a different mindset to this subject. I prefer to take an abundance mentality and freely give them away. Why Not? I find that if I am busy trying to horde my work then I am missing opportunities to broaden my circle of influence. What if we as artist give our digital format work away? There is no production cost to us for this format!</p>
<p>Seth Godin gives away his books in pdf format then he goes about selling millions of copies of the physical book! Why is that? People want to have something physical that they can hold in their hand or, in my case, hang on their wall. If they like it then they will buy!</p>
<p>If they are the type that will print out a copy of a file from my site to hang on their wall or put in something they are selling&#8230;they would not have bought my work anyway. So why fight it? I figure the more people that see my work, the better the chance of one wanting to actually purchase it!  Just my weird way of looking at this!</p>
<p>What are your thoughts?</p>
<p>Brandon </p>
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		<title>By: Theft of Images From Art Websites &#187; niebruggestudio.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theft of Images From Art Websites &#187; niebruggestudio.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, Thanks for that info - that is very helpful!  
 
Maria - great insightful comment - thanks :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, Thanks for that info &#8211; that is very helpful! </p>
<p>Maria &#8211; great insightful comment &#8211; thanks <img src='http://artmarketingsecrets.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Maria Brophy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Brophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more people that take my husband&#039;s art images off of our website, the happier I am.  That&#039;s because I know that the art is being spread out there virally.  And most people on the web know that if they &quot;borrow&quot; an image for their blog post or slide show or whatever, that it&#039;s only polite to include a link or reference to the artist. 
 
This is what virally spreads your art to people who otherwise might not see it. 
 
Now, if a company takes the art, makes prints of it and sells it, that&#039;s a problem.  We&#039;ve had that happen a couple times, and promptly put an an end to it with a cease and desist through our attorneys. 
 
I&#039;m all for sharing the images for non-commercial use. It benefits everyone. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more people that take my husband&#039;s art images off of our website, the happier I am.  That&#039;s because I know that the art is being spread out there virally.  And most people on the web know that if they &quot;borrow&quot; an image for their blog post or slide show or whatever, that it&#039;s only polite to include a link or reference to the artist.</p>
<p>This is what virally spreads your art to people who otherwise might not see it.</p>
<p>Now, if a company takes the art, makes prints of it and sells it, that&#039;s a problem.  We&#039;ve had that happen a couple times, and promptly put an an end to it with a cease and desist through our attorneys.</p>
<p>I&#039;m all for sharing the images for non-commercial use. It benefits everyone. </p>
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